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Doomben: Brisbane Racing Club@Doomben Tuesday 08, April 2025

Meeting Type: Metro (Non TAB MEETING)

Rail Position:
Dual Track Meeting: N
Track Type: Turf
Track Condition: Soft 7
Weather: Fine
Penetrometer:
Track Information:
Total Number of starters for this meeting (including emergencies) 136

Trials - Finalised 8/4 - 6:30am. Late Scratchings.

Race 1 - 7:30AM OPEN (1000 METRES)
Of $00. Catch Weight, Apprentices cannot claim. Track Name: Main Track Type: Turf Track Condition: Soft 7 RATime: 0:59.33 Last 600m: 0:34.49 Timing Method: Electronic

Finish	No	Horse	Trainer	Jockey	Margin	Bar.	Weight
1	1	FAR TOO EASY	David McColm	Kyle Wilson-Taylor		1	0kg
2	3	BLACK ON BEAUTY	Tony Gollan	Ms Angela Jones	0.3L	3	0kg
3	4	SULTRY SIREN	Robert Heathcote	Jag Guthmann-Chester	2.05L	4	0kg
4	5	COIN TOSS	Tony Gollan	Ms Emily Lang (/52kg)	2.35L	5	0kg
5	7	DIANA'S AFFAIR	Kelly Schweida	Ms Cejay Graham	2.75L	7	0kg
6	2	WANDA'S OUTLAW	Chris Anderson	Michael Rodd	4.25L	2	0kg
7	6	POETIC DRAMA (NZ)	Tony & Maddysen Sears	Andrew Mallyon	5.5L	6	0kg

Race 2 - 7:40AM OPEN (1000 METRES)
Of $00. Catch Weight, Apprentices cannot claim. Track Name: Main Track Type: Turf Track Condition: Soft 7 RATime: 0:58.25 Last 600m: 0:34.57 Timing Method: Electronic

Finish	No	Horse	Trainer	Jockey	Margin	Bar.	Weight
1	6	GIVE GIGGLES (NZ)	Tony Gollan	Ms Angela Jones		6	0kg
2	5	RING OF STEEL	Kelly Schweida	Ms Cejay Graham	1.25L	5	0kg
3	3	DEEP RESPECT	Kelly Schweida	Jag Guthmann-Chester	1.71L	3	0kg
4	4	SALTAIRE	Tony Gollan	Ryan Maloney	4.71L	4	0kg
5	2	RISING PACIFIC (NZ)	Tony Gollan	Andrew Mallyon	7.46L	2	0kg
6	1	ROCK YA (NZ)	Jason Edwards	Taylor Marshall	7.56L	1	0kg

Race 3 - 7:50AM OPEN (1000 METRES)
Of $00. Catch Weight, Apprentices cannot claim. Track Name: Main Track Type: Turf Track Condition: Soft 7 RATime: 0:59.89 Last 600m: 0:34.92 Timing Method: Electronic

Finish	No	Horse	Trainer	Jockey	Margin	Bar.	Weight
1	2	LIQUOR	Tony Gollan	Ms Angela Jones		2	0kg
2	3	TORABELLA	Tony Gollan	Ms Emily Lang (/52kg)	0.46L	3	0kg
3	1	KRONENBOURG (NZ)	Tony Gollan	Noel Callow	0.61L	1	0kg
4	4	KELANOA	Michael Lakey	Robbie Dolan	1.86L	4	0kg
5	6	STARRY EYES	Chris Anderson	Ron Stewart	2.06L	6	0kg
6	5	METALART	Kelly Schweida	Michael Rodd	6.31L	5	0kg

Race 4 - 8:00AM 2YO OPEN (1000 METRES)
Of $00. Catch Weight, Two-Years-Old, Apprentices cannot claim. Track Name: Main Track Type: Turf Track Condition: Soft 7 RATime: 1:01.52 Last 600m: 0:36.29 Timing Method: Electronic

Finish	No	Horse	Trainer	Jockey	Margin	Bar.	Weight
1	1	BRUTAL GLORY	Kelly Schweida	Michael Rodd		1	0kg
2	2	QUARRY MAN (NZ)	Kelly Schweida	Ms Cejay Graham	0.06L	2	0kg
3	4	PARADING GUS	Chris Anderson	Damien Thornton	0.16L	4	0kg
4	6	MIDNIGHT SPIRIT	Tony Gollan	Ms Angela Jones	3.41L	6	0kg
5	7	KATIE AINE	Chris & Corey Munce	Ms Tahlia Fenlon (/50kg)	3.51L	7	0kg
6	3	ENJECTOR	Lee Freedman	Jack Martin	5.51L	3	0kg
7	5	INQUICKTIME	Robert Heathcote	Jace McMurray (/53kg)	10.01L	5	0kg

Race 5 - 8:10AM 2YO OPEN (1000 METRES)
Of $00. Catch Weight, Two-Years-Old, Apprentices cannot claim. Track Name: Main Track Type: Turf Track Condition: Soft 7 RATime: 1:00.01 Last 600m: 0:35.22 Timing Method: Electronic

Finish	No	Horse	Trainer	Jockey	Margin	Bar.	Weight
1	7	MEET GEORGE	Desleigh Forster	Ms Samantha Collett		6	0kg
2	4	OUR GIRL SCARLETT	Kelly Schweida	Ms Cejay Graham	0.02L	4	0kg
3	3	HI BARBIE	Tony Gollan	Ms Angela Jones	0.77L	3	0kg
4	2	TILIA	Tony Gollan	Ms Emily Lang (/52kg)	7.77L	2	0kg
5	1	GAIRLOCH	Olivia Cairns	Robbie Dolan	10.02L	1	0kg
6	5	KING COBAMA	Lee Freedman	Michael Rodd	11.27L	5	0kg
	6	MR DEMOCRAT	Jack Bruce			0

Race 6 - 8:20AM 2YO OPEN (1000 METRES)
Of $00. Catch Weight, Two-Years-Old, Apprentices cannot claim. Track Name: Main Track Type: Turf Track Condition: Soft 7 RATime: 1:00.53 Last 600m: 0:35.78 Timing Method: Electronic

Finish	No	Horse	Trainer	Jockey	Margin	Bar.	Weight
1	3	BEFORE ANYONE ELSE	Tony Gollan	Noel Callow		2	0kg
2	5	LOCKYER	Tony Gollan	Ryan Maloney	0.35L	4	0kg
3	6	ROYAL CHIC	Annabel & Rob Archibald	Kyle Wilson-Taylor	2.85L	5	0kg
4	4	SPANISH RAGE	Robert Heathcote	Jace McMurray (/53kg)	3.85L	3	0kg
5	7	MADAM MAGPIE	Kelly Schweida	Ms Cejay Graham	4L	6	0kg
6	1	MISHA QUEEN	Allan Chau	Robbie Dolan	7L	1	0kg
	2	TIDAL POINT	Gillian Heinrich			0

Race 7 - 8:30AM 2YO OPEN (1000 METRES)
Of $00. Catch Weight, Two-Years-Old, Apprentices cannot claim. Track Name: Main Track Type: Turf Track Condition: Soft 7 RATime: 1:00.81 Last 600m: 0:35.73 Timing Method: Electronic

Finish	No	Horse	Trainer	Jockey	Margin	Bar.	Weight
1	4	MARUNOUCHI	Tony Gollan	Ms Angela Jones		4	0kg
2	5	MORTAL HALO	Annabel & Rob Archibald	Jag Guthmann-Chester	3.75L	5	0kg
3	3	SUPER JOHNNY JOYA	Kelly Schweida	Ms Cejay Graham	4.25L	3	0kg
4	6	I SAY I SAY	Robert Heathcote	Bailey Wheeler (/52kg)	6.5L	6	0kg
5	1	OUTCRY	Chris & Corey Munce	Ms Siobhan Rutledge	6.96L	1	0kg
6	2	MEADE'S CAFE	David Murphy	Ms Samantha Collett	7.71L	2	0kg
	7	METAL MAN	Kelly Schweida			0

Race 8 - 8:40AM 3YO OPEN (1000 METRES)
Of $00. Catch Weight, Three-Years-Old, Apprentices cannot claim. Track Name: Main Track Type: Turf Track Condition: Soft 7 RATime: 1:01.30 Last 600m: 0:35.55 Timing Method: Electronic

Finish	No	Horse	Trainer	Jockey	Margin	Bar.	Weight
1	5	SPICY MARTINI	Toby Edmonds & Stephen McLean	Kyle Wilson-Taylor		5	0kg
2	4	ESPRIT DU JOUR	Tony Gollan	Ms Emily Lang (/52kg)	0.02L	4	0kg
3	6	CHOSEN LEGEND	Barry Lockwood	Ms Shakira Bailey (/50kg)	1.27L	6	0kg
4	2	I'M HEROIC	Desleigh Forster	Ms Samantha Collett	1.47L	2	0kg
5	7	TIPSY TIGER	Tony Gollan	Ms Angela Jones	1.77L	7	0kg
6	3	MISS MONEYPENNY	Annabel & Rob Archibald	Dan McGillivray	2.02L	3	0kg
7	1	METCALFE	Annabel & Rob Archibald	Jag Guthmann-Chester	4.02L	1	0kg
	8	ALLY	Chris & Corey Munce			0

Race 9 - 8:50AM 3YO OPEN (1000 METRES)
Of $00. Catch Weight, Three-Years-Old, Apprentices cannot claim. Track Name: Main Track Type: Turf Track Condition: Soft 7 RATime: 1:01.01 Last 600m: 0:34.99 Timing Method: Electronic

Finish	No	Horse	Trainer	Jockey	Margin	Bar.	Weight
1	4	TRAPEZE ALERT	Tony Gollan	Noel Callow		4	0kg
2	5	SANCTUARY STORM	Annabel & Rob Archibald	Kyle Wilson-Taylor	1L	5	0kg
3	7	AUTUMNGIRL	Kelly Schweida	Ms Cejay Graham	1.2L	7	0kg
4	3	SOCRAZYINLOVE	Tony Gollan	Ryan Maloney	1.55L	3	0kg
5	2	JUDGE JACK	Annabel & Rob Archibald	Dan McGillivray	2.3L	2	0kg
6	6	CARRAVILLA	Chris & Corey Munce	Ms Siobhan Rutledge	4.55L	6	0kg
7	1	BEAU DAZZLER (NZ)	Tony & Maddysen Sears	Jag Guthmann-Chester	4.57L	1	0kg

Race 10 - 9:00AM 3YO MAIDEN (1000 METRES)
Of $00. Maiden, Catch Weight, Three-Years-Old, Apprentices cannot claim. Track Name: Main Track Type: Turf Track Condition: Soft 7 RATime: 1:00.07 Last 600m: 0:35.33 Timing Method: Electronic

Finish	No	Horse	Trainer	Jockey	Margin	Bar.	Weight
1	5	PARO	Barry Lockwood	Robbie Dolan		4	0kg
2	2	FOR BETTER	Annabel & Rob Archibald	Kyle Wilson-Taylor	2L	1	0kg
3	6	BOOMROUX	Chris & Corey Munce	Ms Siobhan Rutledge	2.4L	5	0kg
4	4	COUNT THE DOUGH	Matthew Hoysted	Jack Martin	4.4L	3	0kg
5	3	XTRA LA VITA	Robert Heathcote	Ms Cejay Graham	4.7L	2	0kg
6	7	FULLY SUBSCRIBED	Tony Gollan	Ms Emily Lang (/52kg)	6.2L	6	0kg
	1	GOT DIDDLY SQUAT (NZ)	Jack Bruce			0

Race 11 - 9:10AM 3YO MAIDEN (1000 METRES)
Of $00. Maiden, Catch Weight, Three-Years-Old, Apprentices cannot claim. Track Name: Main Track Type: Turf Track Condition: Soft 7 RATime: 1:00.77 Last 600m: 0:35.48 Timing Method: Electronic

Finish	No	Horse	Trainer	Jockey	Margin	Bar.	Weight
1	5	MAZIS	Annabel & Rob Archibald	Jag Guthmann-Chester		4	0kg
2	2	IN GREAT SPIRIT	Chris Anderson	Ron Stewart	1L	2	0kg
3	7	JED EYE NIGHT	Peter & Will Hulbert	Mark Du Plessis	2.5L	5	0kg
4	4	IDUN	Tony Gollan	Ms Emily Lang (/52kg)	4.25L	3	0kg
5	1	NEVER REFUSE	Desleigh Forster	Ms Samantha Collett	4.5L	1	0kg
	3	STYNSY (NZ)	Jack Bruce			0
	6	DOUBTLESS	Bevan Laming			0

Race 12 - 9:20AM 3YO MAIDEN (1000 METRES)
Of $00. Maiden, Catch Weight, Three-Years-Old, Apprentices cannot claim. Track Name: Main Track Type: Turf Track Condition: Soft 7 RATime: 0:59.30 Last 600m: 0:35.39 Timing Method: Electronic

Finish	No	Horse	Trainer	Jockey	Margin	Bar.	Weight
1	1	FAST FUN	Matthew Hoysted	Ms Fiona Sandkuhl (/53.5kg)		1	0kg
2	3	RUINS OF ROME	Chris & Corey Munce	Martin Harley	2.25L	3	0kg
3	6	IN NO DOUBT	Chris Anderson	Damien Thornton	2.65L	5	0kg
4	7	IKUMA	Tony Gollan	Ms Angela Jones	4.15L	6	0kg
5	2	KABUKICHO	Robert Heathcote	Noel Callow	4.21L	2	0kg
6	5	PERRIERES	Annabel & Rob Archibald	Dan McGillivray	9.21L	4	0kg
	4	SUSPICIOUS LOVE	Annabel & Rob Archibald			0

Race 13 - 9:30AM 3YO MAIDEN (1000 METRES)
Of $00. Maiden, Catch Weight, Three-Years-Old, Apprentices cannot claim. Track Name: Main Track Type: Turf Track Condition: Soft 7 RATime: 0:59.33 Last 600m: 0:35.12 Timing Method: Electronic

Finish	No	Horse	Trainer	Jockey	Margin	Bar.	Weight
1	4	SOLO LEVELLING	Annabel & Rob Archibald	Jag Guthmann-Chester		4	0kg
2	7	BALANCE THE BOOKS	Tony Gollan	Ms Emily Lang (/52kg)	1.25L	7	0kg
3	2	HAPPY WINS	Annabel & Rob Archibald	Kyle Wilson-Taylor	1.27L	2	0kg
4	5	OF COURSE	Matthew Hoysted	Damien Thornton	5.02L	5	0kg
5	6	GENERAL DANCER	Chris & Corey Munce	Ms Georgina Cartwright	5.37L	6	0kg
6	1	GAS BRIGADE	Robert Heathcote	Noel Callow	8.37L	1	0kg
7	3	SMACKEROONY	Chris Anderson	Michael Rodd	8.47L	3	0kg

Race 14 - 9:40AM CLASS 3 (1000 METRES)
Of $00. Class 3, Catch Weight, Apprentices cannot claim. Track Name: Main Track Type: Turf Track Condition: Soft 7 RATime: 0:59.42 Last 600m: 0:34.45 Timing Method: Electronic

Finish	No	Horse	Trainer	Jockey	Margin	Bar.	Weight
1	5	LIETUVA	Desleigh Forster	Ms Samantha Collett		5	0kg
2	7	FLYWHEEL	Robert Heathcote	Kyle Wilson-Taylor	3L	7	0kg
3	2	FLYING AURELIUS	Barry Lockwood	Martin Harley	3.75L	2	0kg
4	6	ESTRONDO	Robert Heathcote	Bailey Wheeler (/52kg)	4.1L	6	0kg
5	1	SIR CARTER	Peter & Will Hulbert	Matthew Gray	5.35L	1	0kg
6	3	SINGLE 'N' READY	Barry Lockwood	Jack Martin	5.37L	3	0kg
7	8	ALPINE RAIDER	Paul Butterworth	Ms Cejay Graham	6.62L	8	0kg
8	4	FELIX THE SCAT	Tony Gollan	Noel Callow	7.87L	4	0kg

Race 15 - 9:50AM CLASS 3 (1000 METRES)
Of $00. Class 3, Catch Weight, Apprentices cannot claim. Track Name: Main Track Type: Turf Track Condition: Soft 7 RATime: 1:02.08 Last 600m: 0:35.59 Timing Method: Electronic

Finish	No	Horse	Trainer	Jockey	Margin	Bar.	Weight
1	5	JEALOUS	Robert Heathcote	Mark Du Plessis		4	0kg
2	3	AKROTIRI (NZ)	Annabel & Rob Archibald	Kyle Wilson-Taylor	1.25L	2	0kg
3	8	NIPPA'S NIGHTCAP	Kelly Schweida	Ms Cejay Graham	1.35L	6	0kg
4	7	FLOOZIE	Tony Gollan	Ms Angela Jones	1.81L	5	0kg
5	2	TEESANDCEES APPLY	Robert Heathcote	Mitch Goring (/57kg)	3.31L	1	0kg
6	4	RHODES	Peter & Will Hulbert	Matthew Gray	6.31L	3	0kg
	1	HELL FOLLOWS	Chris Anderson			0
	6	PRE EMINENCE	Barry Lockwood			0

Race 16 - 10:00AM MAIDEN (1000 METRES)
Of $00. Maiden, Catch Weight, Apprentices cannot claim. Track Name: Main Track Type: Turf Track Condition: Soft 7 RATime: 1:01.45 Last 600m: 0:35.08 Timing Method: Electronic

Finish	No	Horse	Trainer	Jockey	Margin	Bar.	Weight
1	1	EQUINE ART	Barry Lockwood	Ms Shayleigh Ingelse (/53.5kg)		1	0kg
2	4	READY FOR THE TRIP	Tony Gollan	Ms Angela Jones	3L	3	0kg
3	5	INTRUDER	Chris & Corey Munce	Martin Harley	5.25L	4	0kg
4	2	UNO RITE	Michael Lakey	Dan McGillivray	13.75L	2	0kg
	3	KEY COMPONENT	Steele Ryan			0

Race 17 - 10:10AM OPEN (840 METRES)
Of $00. Catch Weight, Apprentices cannot claim. Track Name: Main Track Type: Turf Track Condition: Soft 7 RATime: 0:50.17 Last 600m: 0:33.48 Timing Method: Electronic

Finish	No	Horse	Trainer	Jockey	Margin	Bar.	Weight
1	3	COSMIC FIRE	Billy Healey	Andrew Mallyon		1	0kg
2	4	THE INFLICTOR	Craig Cousins	Ms Cejay Graham	0.35L	2	0kg
3	5	AERIAL DANCER	Matthew Hoysted	Ms Fiona Sandkuhl (/53.5kg)	1.85L	3	0kg
4	6	NATIONAL CHOICE	Robert Heathcote	Noel Callow	3.85L	4	0kg
	1	CORKSCREW (NZ)	Steele Ryan			0
	2	TIGER SHARK	Natalie McCall			0

Race 18 - 10:20AM 2YO OPEN (840 METRES)
Of $00. Catch Weight, Two-Years-Old, Apprentices cannot claim. Track Name: Main Track Type: Turf Track Condition: Soft 7 RATime: 0:50.57 Last 600m: 0:34.13 Timing Method: Electronic

Finish	No	Horse	Trainer	Jockey	Margin	Bar.	Weight
1	8	BOURBON COUNTY	Lee Freedman	Jack Martin		7	0kg
2	2	KOOLATAH QUEEN	Chris Anderson	Ron Stewart	5L	1	0kg
3	5	SIMPLY ANGELIC	Kelly Schweida	Ms Georgina Cartwright	8.75L	4	0kg
4	7	QUEEN OF THE MOON	Robert Heathcote	Ms Emily Lang (/52kg)	10L	6	0kg
5	3	SPICE QUEEN	Chris & Corey Munce	Ms Tahlia Fenlon (/50kg)	10.35L	2	0kg
6	6	GOLDEN NOTRE	Kelly Schweida	Michael Rodd	11.85L	5	0kg
7	4	ISLA DELILAH	Chris & Corey Munce	Ms Siobhan Rutledge	14.1L	3	0kg
	1	WORTHY	Natalie McCall			0

Race 19 - 10:30AM 2YO OPEN (840 METRES)
Of $00. Catch Weight, Two-Years-Old, Apprentices cannot claim. Track Name: Main Track Type: Turf Track Condition: Soft 7 RATime: 0:51.64 Last 600m: 0:35.01 Timing Method: Electronic

Finish	No	Horse	Trainer	Jockey	Margin	Bar.	Weight
1	6	CARBONARA	Robert Heathcote	Kyle Wilson-Taylor		6	0kg
2	4	COOL ARCHIE	Chris & Corey Munce	Martin Harley	0.75L	4	0kg
3	3	YOUMEANDDUPRE	Chris & Corey Munce	Ms Tahlia Fenlon (/50kg)	2.5L	3	0kg
4	7	MEASURE UP	Matthew Hoysted	Boris Thornton	3L	7	0kg
5	5	VERONA GIRL	Kelly Schweida	Ms Angela Jones	3.35L	5	0kg
6	1	PEQUENA DIVA	Lee Freedman	Michael Rodd	3.85L	1	0kg
7	8	ARTISTIC ENDEAVOUR	Kelly Schweida	Ms Cejay Graham	5.6L	8	0kg
8	2	HIGH SOBRIETY	Chris Anderson	Damien Thornton	7.1L	2	0kg

Race 20 - 10:40AM 2YO OPEN (840 METRES)
Of $00. Catch Weight, Two-Years-Old, Apprentices cannot claim. Track Name: Main Track Type: Turf Track Condition: Soft 7 RATime: 0:50.99 Last 600m: 0:34.52 Timing Method: Electronic

Finish	No	Horse	Trainer	Jockey	Margin	Bar.	Weight
1	8	NORTH POLE	Kelly Schweida	Ms Angela Jones		6	0kg
2	5	FABULANTES	Robert Heathcote	Michael Rodd	0.5L	4	0kg
3	1	FUNKY ZEBRA	Chris & Corey Munce	Martin Harley	3L	1	0kg
4	3	LADY WINDERMERE	Chris Anderson	Jace McMurray (/53kg)	5.25L	2	0kg
5	4	VEGAMEISTER	Kelly Schweida	Ms Cejay Graham	5.5L	3	0kg
6	6	VAN DE BAN	Chris & Corey Munce	Ms Tahlia Fenlon (/50kg)	7.5L	5	0kg
	2	WHY SO ANGRY	Liam Birchley			0
	7	EARN TO BURN	Jack Bruce			0

Race 21 - 10:50AM 3YO MAIDEN (840 METRES)
Of $00. Maiden, Catch Weight, Three-Years-Old, Apprentices cannot claim. Track Name: Main Track Type: Turf Track Condition: Soft 7 RATime: 0:51.44 Last 600m: 0:34.80 Timing Method: Electronic

Finish	No	Horse	Trainer	Jockey	Margin	Bar.	Weight
1	2	TARMAC	Chris Anderson	Michael Rodd		2	0kg
2	7	PEE BEE NOIR	Peter & Will Hulbert	Mark Du Plessis	0.46L	7	0kg
3	8	POROTO (NZ)	Matthew Hoysted	Jack Martin	0.86L	8	0kg
4	4	SHE'S A FIZZ	Peter & Will Hulbert	Matthew Gray	2.86L	4	0kg
5	3	ALARMING	Matthew Hoysted	Damien Thornton	3.61L	3	0kg
6	1	NO IT DOESN'T	Darren Bell	Ms Chelsea Francis (/51kg)	3.81L	1	0kg
7	5	CAISHEN	Chris & Corey Munce	Ms Siobhan Rutledge	4.81L	5	0kg
8	6	RED ROUSEY	Ian Livingstone	Ms Melissa Cox	7.81L	6	0kg

Race 22 - 11:00AM MAIDEN - CLASS 2 (840 METRES)
Of $00. Class 3, Catch Weight, Apprentices cannot claim. Track Name: Main Track Type: Turf Track Condition: Soft 7 RATime: 0:50.59 Last 600m: 0:33.89 Timing Method: Electronic

Finish	No	Horse	Trainer	Jockey	Margin	Bar.	Weight
1	1	TIGER TIE	Chris & Corey Munce	Ms Tahlia Fenlon (/50kg)		1	0kg
2	4	VIENNA WHO	Darren Bell	Ms Chelsea Francis (/51kg)	1.25L	3	0kg
3	2	ROCKETEER GIRL	Chris & Corey Munce	Ms Siobhan Rutledge	1.65L	2	0kg
	3	ROCKETTO	Billy Healey			0
	5	BOUNDFORHELL	Steele Ryan			0

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