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Swan Hill: Swan Hill Jockey Club Sunday 10, June 2012

Meeting Type: Country (TAB MEETING)
Rail Position: True Position Entire Circuit
Dual Track Meeting: N
Track Type: Turf
Track Condition: Good 4
Weather: Fine
Penetrometer: 4.5
Track Information:
Total Number of starters for this meeting (including emergencies) 124
Race 1 - 11:15AM Only A Little Bit Over SV 3YO Maiden Plate (1200 METRES)
Of $15,000. 1st $8,775, 2nd $2,700, 3rd $1,350, 4th $675, 5th $250, 6th $250, 7th $250, 8th $250, 9th $250, 10th $250
Maiden, Set Weights, Three-Years-Old, Apprentices can claim.
This race carries a VOBIS Silver Nominators Bonus of $2,700 and a VOBIS Silver Owners Bonus of $6,300 for qualified horses.

Track Name: Main Track Type: Turf Track Condition: Good 4 RATime: 1:12.41 Last 600m: 0:35.48 Timing Method: Electronic

Color Finish No Horse Trainer Jockey Margin Bar. Weight Penalty Starting Price
1 9 ESPRIT HI Darren Weir Dean Yendall 7 56kg $2.70
2 10 LOURDEAUX Sue Naylor Jack Hill 0.1L 4 56kg $4.20
3 6 KING OF CRUISE Sean Mott Craig Robertson 1.35L 10 58kg $18
4 1 ALL IN A ROH Roberta MacLeod Ms Nikita Beriman 1.65L 5 58kg $19
5 12 PERFECT PERIDOT Adrian Harrison Mr Jacob Rule 2.4L 11 56kg $17
6 5 IN SPIRIT Nathan Hobson Mr Peter Mertens 3.15L 6 58kg $10
7 13 SIXTEEN PELICANS Gary Sherer Jarrod Todd 5.15L 9 56kg $10
8 4 HEZOFF Shane Fliedner Billy Egan 5.35L 3 58kg $12
9 14 SPIRITED MISS Graeme Hicks Luke Londregan 10.35L 1 56kg (cd 53.5kg) $26
10 7 RAIN MAN Alicia MacPherson Mr Mark Pegus 11.1L 2 58kg $10
11 15 DELRAZZI Brad Cole Mr Zachary Scullie (a4/53kg) 13.85L 8 56kg (cd 53.5kg) $81
3 FINE COGNAC John Sadler Jamie Mott 0
2 COUNTTHEPINEAPPLES Jamie Edwards & Bruce Elkington Mr Josh Cartwright 0
11 MINTENKO Ciaron Maher 0
8 SPACEAGE EAGLE (NZ) Patrick Payne Brad Rawiller 0
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Race 2 - 11:45AM Swan Hill Credit Union SV 3YO Maiden Plate (1600 METRES)
Of $15,000. 1st $8,775, 2nd $2,700, 3rd $1,350, 4th $675, 5th $250, 6th $250, 7th $250, 8th $250, 9th $250, 10th $250
Maiden, Set Weights, Three-Years-Old, Apprentices can claim.
This race carries a VOBIS Silver Nominators Bonus of $2,700 and a VOBIS Silver Owners Bonus of $6,300 for qualified horses.

Track Name: Main Track Type: Turf Track Condition: Good 4 RATime: 1:39.80 Last 600m: 0:36.80 Timing Method: Electronic

Color Finish No Horse Trainer Jockey Margin Bar. Weight Penalty Starting Price
1 13 HIGHWAY PRINCESS Bob Donat Ms Rebecca Sims 12 56kg (cd 54kg) $13
2 3 FLYING HUSSLER Matthew Williams Mr Thomas Sadler 0.75L 8 58kg (cd 56kg) $3.40
3 1 ALMAC Ciaron Maher Dean Yendall 1.5L 4 58kg $11
4 6 LOVASOVA Darren Weir Brad Rawiller 1.7L 5 58kg $6
5 15 DELWONDER Adrian Corboy Mr Jacob Rule 3.45L 1 58kg $11
6 14 MISS MONTGOMERY Terry Kelly Damian Lane 3.85L 3 56kg $9
7 17 HESKET HAWK Neil Dyer Ms Nikita Beriman 4.05L 7 56kg $26
8 16 THE TOP Majella Ballantine Jarrod Fry 5.05L 13 58kg $51
9 11 SHADOW ON THE MOON Sue Naylor Craig Robertson 5.55L 10 58kg $11
10 2 DIVI FILIUS Aaron Purcell Mr Mark Pegus 5.65L 6 58kg $18
11 12 CASH FOR GOSS Matthew Williams Jack Hill 5.85L 2 56kg $21
12 9 RIVERLEA ALLEGRO Neville Allport Jarrod Todd 7.85L 11 58kg $26
13 7 MARMADUKE JINX Mark Ashby Mr Peter Mertens 20.6L 9 58kg $8.50
18 BIG TEUF Ciaron Maher 0
5 LINGERING Gerald Egan Jye McNeil 0
4 GORILLA'S MIST Dan O'Sullivan Joe Bowditch 0
10 SCOTCHONTHEROCKS (NZ) Danny O'Brien Jamie Mott 0
8 NESTUS Mark Young Billy Egan 0
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Race 3 - 12:20PM Centrebet Droughtbreaker Maiden Plate (1600 METRES)
Of $15,000. 1st $8,775, 2nd $2,700, 3rd $1,350, 4th $675, 5th $250, 6th $250, 7th $250, 8th $250, 9th $250, 10th $250
Maiden, Set Weights, Four-Years-Old and Upwards, Apprentices can claim.

Track Name: Main Track Type: Turf Track Condition: Good 4 RATime: 1:39.45 Last 600m: 0:36.40 Timing Method: Electronic

Color Finish No Horse Trainer Jockey Margin Bar. Weight Penalty Starting Price
1 3 CRAFT SHOW Phil Sweeney Brad Rawiller 4 58.5kg $8
2 4 DANCEZ VOUS (NZ) Jamie Edwards & Bruce Elkington Mr Josh Cartwright 1L 8 58.5kg (cd 55.5kg) $7
3 7 SILKEN SAMURAI Bob McAdam Mr Jacob Rule 2L 7 58.5kg $21
4 13 SPACE DIVA David Noonan Dean Yendall 2.75L 10 56.5kg $5
5 14 STRIPED CAT Patrick Payne Joe Bowditch 3.5L 6 56.5kg $2.35
6 15 WILLY'S BOY John Allen Omer Ay 3.6L 2 58.5kg (cd 55.5kg) $51
7 10 ZIPPY LAD Harold Barry Ms Jackie Beriman 4.85L 3 58.5kg (cd 56.5kg) $16
8 8 SOUTHERN DIAMONDS Bill Cerchi Craig Robertson 6.35L 5 58.5kg $26
9 12 PRUSSIAN MADE Mick Sell Luke Londregan 7.6L 9 56.5kg (cd 53.5kg) $9
10 9 VOTE FOR LUST John Castleman Mr Mark Pegus 10.85L 11 58.5kg $101
11 11 FLORA POWER Corey Sanders Mr Grant Challinger 15.85L 1 56.5kg $51
12 16 OURGIRLMOOTIFF Jane Duncan Harry Coffey 18.85L 13 56.5kg (cd 53.5kg) $81
13 6 REBEL RIDGE Robyn Smith Ms Rebecca Sims 23.85L 12 58.5kg (cd 56.5kg) $51
17 KOETONG Trudy Cottier Jye McNeil 0
18 JOYLANI Barry Goodwin Ms Linda Meech 0
1 ACADIAN CAT Catherine Jordan John Keating 0
2 COUNT CAPRI Ken Elford Mr Kane Post 0
5 LITTLE BIG MAN Wendy Church Jack Hill 0
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Race 4 - 12:55PM Swan Hill Rural City Council Maiden Plate (975 METRES)
Of $15,000. 1st $8,775, 2nd $2,700, 3rd $1,350, 4th $675, 5th $250, 6th $250, 7th $250, 8th $250, 9th $250, 10th $250
Maiden, Set Weights, Two-Years-Old and Upwards, Apprentices can claim.

Track Name: Main Track Type: Turf Track Condition: Good 4 RATime: 0:57.64 Last 600m: 0:34.52 Timing Method: Electronic

Color Finish No Horse Trainer Jockey Margin Bar. Weight Penalty Starting Price
1 10 BLACK BOOTY Gary Sherer Jarrod Todd 6 56.5kg $2.50
2 14 SUETONIUS Darren Weir Dean Yendall 2L 5 56.5kg $10
3 4 GRANDE FORNO Brendan McCarthy John Kissick 2.75L 3 58.5kg (cd 56.5kg) $15
4 8 SYMBOL OF FREEDOM Shane Fliedner Billy Egan 2.85L 10 58.5kg $12
5 6 PERSIAN ACE Ian W Fletcher John Dertilis 3.05L 12 58.5kg $81
6 1 FORTRUS LAD Terry Kelly Damian Lane 4.3L 2 58.5kg $13
7 7 RORY'S HALO Jenette Burgess Mr Jason Lyon 4.4L 11 58.5kg $26
8 2 GARNESH Matthew Enright Brad Rawiller 4.5L 1 58.5kg $2.70
9 3 GOLDEN PEG John Allen Omer Ay 6L 4 58.5kg (cd 55.5kg) $71
10 9 WEDUNNOWHO Brian McKnight Ms Christine Puls 7.75L 7 58.5kg $41
11 13 ONE'N'ONLY SECRET Brad Cole Mr Zachary Scullie (a4/53kg) 8.75L 8 56.5kg (cd 53.5kg) $41
12 11 HILLCREST JEKLEK Maureen Harry Mr Jacob Rule 12.25L 9 56.5kg $51
15 GOLD ENSIGN David Wolters 0
5 LIVERPOOL LAD Brydon Mills Ms Rebecca Sims 0
12 LIBERTY STYLE Philip Evans John Keating 0
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Race 5 - 1:30PM SHJC 150th Birthday 0 - 62 Handicap (975 METRES)
Of $15,000. 1st $8,775, 2nd $2,700, 3rd $1,350, 4th $675, 5th $250, 6th $250, 7th $250, 8th $250, 9th $250, 10th $250
0 - 62, Handicap, Minimum Weight 54kg, Apprentices can claim.

Track Name: Main Track Type: Turf Track Condition: Good 4 RATime: 0:57.08 Last 600m: 0:34.56 Timing Method: Electronic

Color Finish No Horse Trainer Jockey Margin Bar. Weight Penalty Starting Price
1 7 OBLIQUITY Brendan McCarthy John Kissick (a3/57kg) 6 57.5kg (cd 54.5kg) $3.50
2 2 KING BUDDY Darren Weir Brad Rawiller 1.25L 12 59.5kg $4.80
3 13 EVENAZ John Gould Harry Coffey (a3/54kg) 2L 2 54kg (cd 51kg) $51
4 9 OAMARU PRINCESS Wayne Nichols Craig Robertson 2.5L 7 56.5kg $13
5 8 MILLIONAIRE'S BABY Leeanne Smith Omer Ay (a3/53kg) 3.5L 4 57kg (cd 54kg) $14
6 1 COROICO Sean Mott Ms Rebecca Sims (a2/52kg) 3.6L 9 59.5kg (cd 57.5kg) $4.20
7 3 DUBAI OPERA Danny Curran Mrs Carryn Londregan (a4/52kg) 4.85L 11 58.5kg (cd 54.5kg) $26
8 6 GEJOSI Carey Ward Ms Linda Meech 4.95L 3 57.5kg $26
9 14 AH OH CHONGO Jenette Burgess Mr Jason Lyon 5.7L 10 54kg $51
10 12 THE RACK Ian W Fletcher John Dertilis 6.7L 5 54.5kg $31
11 4 LASCELLES Rod Symons John Keating 8.2L 8 58kg $10
12 5 BELAHI Grant Dalziel Mr Mark Pegus 10.7L 1 57.5kg $12
11 LOVE MY DAD Ern Ewert Mr Thomas Sadler 0
10 A CITY GIRL Matthew Williams Dean Yendall 0
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Race 6 - 2:05PM Vetta Spaghetti 0 - 62 Handicap (975 METRES)
Of $15,000. 1st $8,775, 2nd $2,700, 3rd $1,350, 4th $675, 5th $250, 6th $250, 7th $250, 8th $250, 9th $250, 10th $250
0 - 62, Handicap, Minimum Weight 54kg, Apprentices can claim.

Track Name: Main Track Type: Turf Track Condition: Good 4 RATime: 0:57.12 Last 600m: 0:34.56 Timing Method: Electronic

Color Finish No Horse Trainer Jockey Margin Bar. Weight Penalty Starting Price
1 1 HILL OF FAITH Allen Browell Andrew Mallyon 4 59.5kg $4
2 8 SPIRITOFTHESTORM Jarrod McLean Ms Jackie Beriman (a2/50kg) 0.3L 6 57kg (cd 55kg) $8
3 6 MISS BRILLIANCE John Smerdon Ms Linda Meech 0.4L 5 57.5kg $3
4 4 BLACK FAITH Darren Weir Dean Yendall 1.65L 12 57.5kg $8
5 7 DENBURST David Wolters Damian Lane (a0/53kg) 1.75L 1 57kg $61
6 11 HALO DOT COM Lawrence Farrugia Omer Ay (a3/53kg) 3L 8 55.5kg (cd 54kg) $18
7 10 FULL FLIGHT Daryl Brown Jack Hill 3.75L 11 55.5kg $19
8 12 GRACE I GOT Jane Duncan Jye McNeil (a3/50kg) 3.85L 2 54kg (cd 51kg) $26
9 3 AMALFI COAST Gary Sherer Jarrod Todd 4.25L 3 58kg $10
10 2 SILENT VOICE Austy Coffey Harry Coffey (a3/54kg) 5.25L 10 59.5kg (cd 56.5kg) $14
11 9 VOPOP Mick Sell Chris Nicoll 5.45L 9 56.5kg $26
12 13 TESTYA PATIENCE Jenette Burgess Mr Jason Lyon 7.7L 7 54kg $31
14 SIMILAR Dean Boal Jake Bayliss 0
5 BROKEN JAW Ern Ewert Mr Thomas Sadler 0
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Race 7 - 2:40PM The Guardian Court Hero Sprint (975 METRES)
Of $35,000. 1st $21,613, 2nd $6,650, 3rd $2,992, 4th $1,330, 5th $665, 6th $350, 7th $350, 8th $350, 9th $350, 10th $350
BenchMark 78, Handicap, Minimum Weight 54kg, Apprentices can claim.

Track Name: Main Track Type: Turf Track Condition: Good 4 RATime: 0:56.74 Timing Method: Electronic

Color Finish No Horse Trainer Jockey Margin Bar. Weight Penalty Starting Price
1 2 GOD'S WINDOW Shaun Dwyer Ms Jackie Beriman 8 60kg (cd 58kg) $10
2 8 EXCEED AND EXCITE Leon Corstens Mr Thomas Sadler 0.75L 10 56kg (cd 54kg) $7
3 5 PRODUCED (NZ) Daryl Archard Ms Rebecca Sims 0.85L 4 58kg (cd 56kg) $14
4 11 THEBARWONPRINCE Gwenda Johnstone Jack Hill 0.95L 1 55kg $4
5 7 HE'S A HOTTY Austy Coffey Harry Coffey 1.45L 9 56.5kg (cd 53.5kg) $10
6 6 NICE AND NEAT Brendan McCarthy John Kissick 1.55L 2 57kg (cd 54kg) $7.50
7 12 MASTER HOUDINI Con Kelly Jye McNeil 1.75L 11 54kg (cd 51kg) $101
8 9 SOUND SYSTEM Quona Cooke Adam McCabe 2.75L 3 56kg $12
9 4 SIGNOR SOCKS Kate Goodrich Dean Yendall 4L 6 58.5kg $7.50
10 1 BOHIKA (NZ) Darren Weir Jake Bayliss 5.5L 5 63kg (cd 59kg) $21
11 10 SANDLER Brad Cole Mr Zachary Scullie (a4/53kg) 6.75L 7 55kg (cd 53.5kg) $15
3 JOHNNY FIASCO Nikki Burke Craig Robertson 0
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Race 8 - 3:15PM Murray Downs Swan Hill Cup (1600 METRES)
Of $85,000. 1st $51,850, 2nd $15,300, 3rd $7,650, 4th $3,825, 5th $2,125, 6th $850, 7th $850, 8th $850, 9th $850, 10th $850
Handicap, Minimum Weight 54.5kg, Weight Raised 0.5kg, Apprentices cannot claim.

Track Name: Main Track Type: Turf Track Condition: Good 4 RATime: 1:37.34 Last 600m: 0:35.56 Timing Method: Electronic

Color Finish No Horse Trainer Jockey Margin Bar. Weight Penalty Starting Price
1 8 CELLARMASTER (NZ) Patrick Payne Billy Egan 4 54.5kg $13
2 14 EBONY ROCK Stephen Theodore Adam McCabe 0.3L 13 54.5kg $6.50
3 9 SCAREDYMAC Jarrod McLean Ms Nikita Beriman 0.6L 3 54.5kg $16
4 2 ERASET Danny O'Brien Jamie Mott 0.7L 6 57.5kg $4.20
5 1 TIAKINUI (NZ) Matthew Enright Brad Rawiller 1.2L 2 58kg $13
6 6 THE WINGMAN (NZ) Tony Vasil Mr Peter Mertens 1.7L 8 55.5kg $8
7 7 MAGIC ME (NZ) Terry & Karina O'Sullivan Joe Bowditch 2.45L 12 55kg $18
8 3 COSMIC CAUSEWAY Peter G Moody Ms Linda Meech 3.45L 5 57kg $4.20
9 12 MONTJEU MADAME (NZ) Darryl Dodson Ms Holly McKechnie 3.55L 10 54.5kg $41
10 11 FASMOSS Bill & Symon Wilde Jack Hill 4.8L 14 54.5kg $26
11 13 SYLVAN O'REILLY (NZ) Glen James Mr Jason Lyon 5.3L 11 54.5kg $31
12 4 EXCEPTIONALLY (NZ) Terry & Karina O'Sullivan Dean Yendall 5.8L 7 56.5kg $71
13 16 HE'S AN ANGEL Brian Cox John Kissick 6.1L 9 54.5kg $31
14 15 NIPTIOUS Danny Curran John Keating 6.6L 1 54.5kg (cd 55kg) $51
18 ITALIAN MACHINE Matthew Williams 0
19 LORD OF BRAZIL (NZ) Darren Weir Mr Jacob Rule 0
17 BEL SIR Neil Dyer Dean Holland 0
5 BANGERANG QUIKPIC Darren Weir Mr Jacob Rule 0
10 OUR SPIRITS BAY (NZ) Tony Noonan Jake Noonan 0
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Race 9 - 3:50PM Tasco Inland Think Big Classic (2100 METRES)
Of $35,000. 1st $21,613, 2nd $6,650, 3rd $2,992, 4th $1,330, 5th $665, 6th $350, 7th $350, 8th $350, 9th $350, 10th $350
BenchMark 78, Handicap, Minimum Weight 54kg, Apprentices can claim.
This race carries a VOBIS Silver Nominators Bonus of $7,000 and a VOBIS Silver Owners Bonus of $23,000 for qualified horses.

Track Name: Main Track Type: Turf Track Condition: Good 4 RATime: 2:10.87 Last 600m: 0:35.98 Timing Method: Electronic

Color Finish No Horse Trainer Jockey Margin Bar. Weight Penalty Starting Price
1 8 BUILDER O'REILLY (NZ) Leon Corstens Ms Linda Meech 2 54kg $8.50
2 5 NOMATAMATA (NZ) Austy Coffey Harry Coffey 0.1L 9 55kg (cd 52kg) $10
3 1 JUMPIN JACK CASH Patrick Payne Brad Rawiller 2.85L 12 60kg $4.80
4 10 RILELILMAG Barbara Marshman Ms Christine Puls 3.6L 4 54kg $15
5 7 BALLISTIC RULER (NZ) Con Kelly John Kissick 4.35L 11 54kg (cd 52.5kg) $26
6 13 STREET ECLIPSE Greg Eurell Dean Yendall 4.55L 3 54kg $5
7 2 AEROLINK Quona Cooke Damian Lane 5.55L 7 57kg $21
8 3 DEEP COVE (NZ) John Sadler Jamie Mott 5.75L 13 56.5kg $4.40
9 11 SEPT ROUGE Jane Duncan Mr Jason Lyon 8.5L 10 54kg $41
10 12 SHOSHONEE Danny Curran Ms Holly McKechnie 8.7L 1 54kg $51
11 4 TELESMON Matthew Williams Mr Thomas Sadler 9.45L 5 56.5kg (cd 54.5kg) $6.50
12 15 TEN BELLS INN Brad Cole Mr Zachary Scullie (a4/53kg) 17.45L 6 54kg (cd 53.5kg) $101
13 14 TURN HIM LOOSE Con Kelly Jye McNeil 18.2L 8 54kg (cd 51kg) $61
16 FABRIANO Peter Donnelly Jarrod Todd 0
9 DARWIN Mark Jackson Ms Nikita Beriman 0
6 SAMBORA Karen Fox John Keating 0
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Race 10 - 4:25PM Pooles 0 - 68 Handicap (1300 METRES)
Of $20,000. 1st $12,025, 2nd $3,700, 3rd $1,850, 4th $925, 5th $250, 6th $250, 7th $250, 8th $250, 9th $250, 10th $250
0 - 68, Handicap, Minimum Weight 54kg, Apprentices can claim.

Track Name: Main Track Type: Turf Track Condition: Good 4 RATime: 1:17.58 Last 600m: 0:36.00 Timing Method: Electronic

Color Finish No Horse Trainer Jockey Margin Bar. Weight Penalty Starting Price
1 13 SOME TARGET Darren Weir Brad Rawiller 9 58kg $8
2 11 COMMANDING TIME Brendan McCarthy John Kissick 0.2L 10 58kg (cd 55kg) $10
3 7 KERT Terry & Karina O'Sullivan Joe Bowditch 1.7L 7 58.5kg $9
4 10 WINCHESTER ARMS Darryl McNeil Jye McNeil 2.95L 13 58.5kg (cd 55.5kg) $8.50
5 12 GIGABYTE Danny O'Brien Andrew Mallyon 4.2L 12 58kg $7
6 5 CONIDEL Ricky Bruhn Ms Jackie Beriman 4.3L 8 59kg (cd 57kg) $6.50
7 6 BICKLEIGH VALE Bill & Symon Wilde Jack Hill 6.3L 5 58.5kg $4
8 14 ATTIVITA (NZ) Peter G Moody Ms Linda Meech 6.5L 11 57.5kg $7
9 15 RUSHING WILD Nathan Hobson Harry Coffey 15.5L 4 58kg (cd 55kg) $31
10 9 MUJADALE Paul Jones Jarrod Fry 16L 2 58.5kg $17
11 1 CANYON DE CHELLEY Bob Donat Craig Robertson 16.75L 1 60kg $51
12 2 NORTH STREET Anthony Chibnall Mr Jason Lyon 21.25L 3 60kg $61
13 17 AMERRYKING Leslie Robertson Mr Mark Pegus 26.25L 6 58kg $51
18 SOUTHERN ATTIRE (NZ) John Sadler Jamie Mott 0
16 KAPTAIN KOSMOS Jamie Edwards & Bruce Elkington Mr Josh Cartwright 0
3 OFFSHORE ECHO John W Thomas Ms Rebecca Sims 0
4 ARTISTIC Aaron Purcell Dean Yendall 0
8 MR OBVIOUS Matthew Williams 0
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